Justforfun69 wrote: You can’t “over brew” it. It will continue to ferment until it can’t ferment anymore. Most of that has to do with where you put it and the temperature around it. If you shake it and there is still a hiss coming out of the top, you can keep fermenting it. As for “amount of yeast”. It matters not. The yeast is going to multiple a billion times over in a day or so anyhow as long as you put your brew in a warn (not hot) place Measurements on yeast are meaningless. From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dee N Ken Shupinski Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:55 PM To: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [E-Z-Caps] Re: My hard ice tea I used 1/8 tsp, yeast that came with ez caps, 1 cup sugar. It is still fermenting with good foam layer on surface. Not sure if I should put it in the fridge now or what. It has been 17 days. WV Princess wrote: How much yeast do you use with your hard iced tea recipe? Do you use the yeast that comes with the E-Z Caps or a different type? Also, if anyone would like to share their hard lemonade recipe I would appreciate it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hi i was wondering if all these recipes aORGINAL POSTER: candy

I love to experiment, tinker, and see how stuff works. I'm not afraidto break stuff (temporarily) to see how things work. The juices weusually use to make our soda bottle wines is cheap enough to "break",so I'm really not afraid to play around and see what happens.I noticed that a lot of the fruit wines I make don't always have thatdefinitive "wine" taste to them, that little bit of a bitter undertonethat makes the difference between "wine" and "grape juice with alcoholin it". I did a little bit of reading and learned a couple of things.1. Different families of grapes have different levels of acid content.2. This level of acid is a big cotributor to what makes wine fromTHOSE grapes unique.3. Almost all Mead calls for a little bit of some kind of citris juiceas part of the recipe. Citris juices contain citric acid.Sooo.... I decided to experiment.I made a double batch of my favorite brewing juice (White GrapeRaspberry) and poured each half into their brewing bottles. I thentook about 1/2 cup liquid measure from one bottle, but it in a bigcoffee cup with a regular tea bag and cooked it in the microwave forabout 45 seconds. This made a really strong 1/2 cup of white grapereaspberry tea. I let it cool down for a few moments, then squeezedout the teabag into the tea. I added this tea back into the bottle thejuice came from, and let both bottles sit for about 1/2 hour (capped)so the temperatures could get about equal. then I added the yeast andlet then do thier thing for about 3 weeks.The result was the batch with the tea added (tannic acid) hadthat "special something" that made it taste more like wine and lesslike juice. I think it was well worth the invetment of 1 minute and a2 cent tea bag!Enjoy!Willum the winerORGINAL POSTER: willum

I used 1/8 tsp, yeast that came with ez caps, 1 cup sugar. It is still fermenting with good foam layer on surface. Not sure if I should put it in the fridge now or what. It has been 17 days.WV Princess wrote: How much yeast do you use with your hard iced tea recipe? Do you use the yeast that comes with the E-Z Caps or a different type? Also, if anyone would like to share their hard lemonade recipe I would appreciate it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Message: 1 Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:02 am (PDT) From: ""Justforfun69"" justforfun69@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: My hard ice tea I have had excellent luck with hard ice tea using already sweetened iced tea (which I make myself using 1 1/2 cups of sugar to a gallon of very strong tea). I add 1 cup of sugar to the 2-liter bottle along with about a half cup of apple juice (for added nutrients) then top off with my home made tea. I Ferment the concoction for 2 weeks. I end up with a high alcohol content tea that is still quite sweet and flavorful. I start with a pretty strong tea, not the store bought stuff that tends to be rather weak. Trying the same thing with a store bought sweet tea ended up in a water-alcohol tasting mixture that didn't retain the tea flavor much. I also add lemon juice after fermentation is complete, for added flavor. One last thing. I ALWAYS use purified bottled water (59 cents a gallon at Walmart. 1 Gal makes 2 2-liter batches) for any E-Z cap recipe I make. Tap water can ruin even the best recipe depending on your local water situation. As for the foam question, you probably won't get much in tea (I don't) but rest assured it ferments just fine, particularly if you add nutrients like apple juice. Give the bottle a few easy shakes and watch the fizz come out of the slit in the E-Z cap if you question whether fermentation is happening. 15 days should be plenty sufficient.Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.ORGINAL POSTER: dee

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"">You can’t “over brew”it. It will continue to ferment until it can’t ferment anymore. Most ofthat has to do with where you put it and the temperature around it. If youshake it and there is still a hiss coming out of the top, you can keepfermenting it.10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;""> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"">As for “amount of yeast”. Itmatters not. The yeast is going to multiple a billion times over in a day or soanyhow as long as you put your brew in a warn (not hot) place10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"">Measurements on yeast are meaningless.10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;""> From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com]bold;"">On Behalf Of Dee N Ken ShupinskiSent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:55PMTo: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [E-Z-Caps] Re: Myhard ice tea12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;"">I used 1/8 tsp, yeast that came with ez caps, 1 cup sugar. It is stillfermenting with good foam layer on surface. Not sure if I should put it in thefridge now or what. It has been 17 days.WV Princess wrote:12.0pt;"">How much yeast do you use with your hard iced tea recipe? Do you usethe yeast that comes with the E-Z Caps or a different type?12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;"">Also, if anyone would like to share their hard lemonade recipe I wouldappreciate it.12.0pt;"">ORGINAL POSTER: justforfun69

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"">Yes, anything I write in here is using theEZ caps yeast.10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;""> From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com]bold;"">On Behalf Of WV PrincessSent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:09AMTo: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.comSubject: [E-Z-Caps] Re: My hardice tea12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;"">How much yeast do you use with your hard iced tea recipe? Do you usethe yeast that comes with the E-Z Caps or a different type?12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;"">Also, if anyone would like to share their hard lemonade recipe I wouldappreciate it.12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;"">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;""> 12.0pt;"">Message: 1 Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:02 am (PDT) From: "Justforfun69" justforfun69@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: My hard ice tea I have had excellent luck with hard ice tea using already sweetened iced tea (which I make myself using 1 1/2 cups of sugar to a gallon of very strong tea). I add 1 cup of sugar to the 2-liter bottle along with about a half cup of apple juice (for added nutrients) then top off with my home made tea. I Ferment the concoction for 2 weeks. I end up with a hORGINAL POSTER: justforfun69

How much yeast do you use with your hard iced tea recipe? Do you use the yeast that comes with the E-Z Caps or a different type? Also, if anyone would like to share their hard lemonade recipe I would appreciate it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Message: 1 Date: Sat Jun 3, 2006 10:02 am (PDT) From: "Justforfun69" justforfun69@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: My hard ice tea I have had excellent luck with hard ice tea using already sweetened iced tea (which I make myself using 1 1/2 cups of sugar to a gallon of very strong tea). I add 1 cup of sugar to the 2-liter bottle along with about a half cup of apple juice (for added nutrients) then top off with my home made tea. I Ferment the concoction for 2 weeks. I end up with a high alcohol content tea that is still quite sweet and flavorful. I start with a pretty strong tea, not the store bought stuff that tends to be rather weak. Trying the same thing with a store bought sweet tea ended up in a water-alcohol tasting mixture that didn't retain the tea flavor much. I also add lemon juice after fermentation is complete, for added flavor. One last thing. I ALWAYS use purified bottled water (59 cents a gallon at Walmart. 1 Gal makes 2 2-liter batches) for any E-Z cap recipe I make. Tap water can ruin even the best recipe depending on your local water situation. As for the foam question, you probably won't get much in tea (I don't) but rest assured it ferments just fine, particularly if you add nutrients like apple juice. Give the bottle a few easy shakes and watch the fizz come out of the slit in the E-Z cap if you question whether fermentation is happening. 15 days should be plenty sufficient.ORGINAL POSTER: wv

In general, the longer you let things brew, the more alcohol you get,up to a point. Depending on the strain of yeast, you'll get somewherebetween 4 to 21 % alcohol by volume. I think the yeast most of us areworking with maxes out about 15%. Also, most yeast is done all it'sgoing to do in about 4 weeks time. Beyond that, you aren't brewing somuch as clearing, settling, and aging. That's one of the nice thingsabout these "bottle cap" brewing systems; short brewing times andmultiple batches make it easy for you to experiment around and find outjust what combination of juices, time and sweetening make the brewthat's right for you.My best suggestion is this: Make notes. If you make somethingexceptionally tasty, you can go back to your notes and try to repeatthe process. If something turns out bad, you might be able see wherethings went wrong. Have fun and Enjoy!--- "Dee and Ken" wrote:>> After leaving my tea outside and shaking it up a bit I got a decent> amount of foam going on the surface. It has been 15 days since I> started it. Should I let it keep going? If so for how long?>> Ken>ORGINAL POSTER: willum

After leaving my tea outside and shaking it up a bit I got a decentamount of foam going on the surface. It has been 15 days since Istarted it. Should I let it keep going? If so for how long?KenORGINAL POSTER: dee

I have had excellent luck with hard ice tea using already sweetened iced tea(which I make myself using 1 1/2 cups of sugar to a gallon of very strongtea). I add 1 cup of sugar to the 2-liter bottle along with about a half cupof apple juice (for added nutrients) then top off with my home made tea. IFerment the concoction for 2 weeks. I end up with a high alcohol content teathat is still quite sweet and flavorful. I start with a pretty strong tea,not the store bought stuff that tends to be rather weak. Trying the samething with a store bought sweet tea ended up in a water-alcohol tastingmixture that didn't retain the tea flavor much.I also add lemon juice after fermentation is complete, for added flavor.One last thing. I ALWAYS use purified bottled water (59 cents a gallon atWalmart. 1 Gal makes 2 2-liter batches) for any E-Z cap recipe I make. Tapwater can ruin even the best recipe depending on your local water situation.As for the foam question, you probably won't get much in tea (I don't) butrest assured it ferments just fine, particularly if you add nutrients likeapple juice. Give the bottle a few easy shakes and watch the fizz come outof the slit in the E-Z cap if you question whether fermentation ishappening. 15 days should be plenty sufficient.-----Original Message-----From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com] On BehalfOf Dee and KenSent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:52 AMTo: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.comSubject: [E-Z-Caps] My hard ice teaAfter leaving my tea outside and shaking it up a bit I got a decentamount of foam going on the surface. It has been 15 days since Istarted it. Should I let it keep going? If so for how long?KenYahoo! Groups LinksORGINAL POSTER: justforfun69

All 4 but 1 repressurized fast except for the lemonade brew. It tooka bit to get pressurized again. What is the trick to making alholicdrinks with citrus based juices?--- "Willum" wrote:>> It sounds like you are fine so far. the only other test i canthink> of is to open the bottles up to relieve existing pressure, tighten> them down again, then shake then up good and hard. If thepressure> comes back within a few hours, then everything is still fine.> Hopefully the acid isnt too high, especially in the tea and> lemonade. Enjoy!>> --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, Dee N Ken Shupinski > wrote:> >> > I made cran ras with 1/2 cup sugar and 1/8 yeast,> > apple cider with 1 cup sugar and 1/8 yeast, and hard ice teawith 1> > cup sugar and 1/8 yeast. I also made grape with 1 cup sugar and1/8> tsp yeast, and pink lemonade with 1 cup sugar with 1/8 tsp yeast.> >> > Willum wrote: How much sugar did you add to how> much juice, and about how many days> > have they been brewing? From what I've seen, you may not see> a "lot"> > of foam. The pressure in the bottle tends to keep the foam to a> > minimum. The fizz you're seeing is one of the indications thatit> is> > working. Pressure in the bottles is another indicator. Itsounds> like> > you are right on track.> >> > Enjoy!> >> >> > --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "Dee and Ken" wrote:> > >> > > I have 5 bottles fermenting. None of them has gotten alot offoam> in> > > them on the surface. Is this good or bad or what? I haveopened a> > > couple and sure do have alot of fizz to em. I do not have alotof> > > sediment either on the bottom, very little.> > >> > > Ken> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > SPONSORED LINKS> > Winemaking supplies Winemaking kits Winemaking> equipment Cap Wine and spirits> >> > ---------------------------------> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS> >> >> > Visit your group "E-Z-Caps" on the web.> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> > E-Z-Caps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of> Service.> >> >> > ---------------------------------> >> >> >> >> >> &gORGINAL POSTER: dee