this is for one gallon,,,cut it in half for 2 liter bottle7 cups dandelion petals1 lb raisins1 gal hot water2 lb sugar3 tsp acid blend1/4 tsp tannin1/2 energizer1 campden tablet crushed1 pkg wine yeastORGINAL POSTER: rrkeller123

--- Amber Satterwhite wrote:>> Anyone here know a source where I can buy new 2 liter bottles,possibly> wholesale? I don't drink enough soda to satisfy my homebrewing needs,> especially since I started making my own colas and such, and it seemskind> of wasteful and expensive to buy cokes just so I can use the bottlesto make> my own. It would be much nicer to just buy the new, empty bottles asI need> them. Surely the soda companies don't have a monopoly on them...>> Amber>buy the bottles of water at walmart,,,you can drink the water or use itto make your wineORGINAL POSTER: rrkeller123

Justforfun69 i was reading your hard tea recipe and how strong do youmake your tea?I.E. how many tea bags per gallon?ORGINAL POSTER: ozzy60107

where do you buy it and how much do you use?--- rrkeller123 wrote:> use potassium sorbate to stop the ferintation...it kills the yeast.>>>________________________________________________________________________________\____Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.http://new.mail.yahoo.comORGINAL POSTER: kevin

Putting EZ Capped drinks in the refrigerator doesn't always completelystop fermentation (it depends on the temperature of the refrigerator) buteven if it doesn't completely stop it, it slows it down so far as to beinsignificant. But if you left a drink in there a really long time (monthsor years) you would notice the flavor becoming dryer- unless of coursefermentation ended or ends for other reasons (no more sugar, ph levels, etc).ORGINAL POSTER: steve

--- Steve wrote:>> Putting EZ Capped drinks in the refrigerator doesn't alwayscompletely> stop fermentation (it depends on the temperature of therefrigerator) but> even if it doesn't completely stop it, it slows it down so far asto be> insignificant. But if you left a drink in there a really long time(months> or years) you would notice the flavor becoming dryer- unless ofcourse> fermentation ended or ends for other reasons (no more sugar, phlevels, etc).>> One of the good things about EZ Caps is the fact that itcreates a natural> product free of any chemical additives. This allows many of thevitamins,> antioxidants, and other healthy benefits of fruit juices to comeout in the> final product. If this is less important to you and you NEED aperfectly> clear, commercial-looking final product fast, this can beaccomplished by> adding a clearant. There are a variety of inexpensive types andbrands> available at homebrewing/vinting stores that can stop fermentationand> produce a clear beverage. Most of them contain an animal-derivedprotein> product (it binds to the yeast, makes it heavier so it all drops tothe> bottom and forms a paste, so when you pour the wine off it leavesthe> sludge behind (chemically assisted racking)) and a chemical processthat> kills the yeast (so no more sludge can be made). All commercialwines go> through this process. When choosing a clearant you have to choosewhether> you want one that is just going to kill the yeast (usually asulfite which> is also a preservative, commercial vintners use it to improveflavor) so> you can rack it naturally, OR one that is only going to clear thebeverage> quickly (usually if you know the yeast is already dead), OR onethat does> both.>> My personal strategy is that I ferment my wine until thealcohol level> gets so high that it kills the yeast. I know this is done whenbubbles can> no longer be seen rising through the liquid. Then I allow theyeast to> settle to the bottom in the refrigerator. I then carefully pourthe wine> out (don't let it "glug" out) and drink it. There is a negligibleamount> of yeast left. If you want your drink more clear, you can repeatthe> clearing process, letting gravity and refrigeration pull the yeastto the> bottom. (cold water is denser than room temperature water- justlike ice> floats in water, colder water allows gravity to pull the yeast tothe> bottom quicker than warmer water would)>they make a siphon hose from a piece of hard plastic tubing that isbent at the end you insert in the bottle with regular plastic tubingattached to it... the u shape at the end of the tube stands above thesediment and siphons off only the clear wine...there is no filterthat will filter out 100% clear wine...the first racking i do is toremove the pulp and dense material from the juice and let it fermentand settle for final clearing...ORGINAL POSTER: rrkeller123

what do you mean by keep racking it every week?what/how do you filter out the precipitate?--- Justforfun69 wrote:> Putting it in the fridge DOES stop fermentation. I'll qualify that by saying> if you have a drink that isn't fully fermented it WILL resume fermentation> after returning to room temperature.>> The reason you are still getting "gunk" is it's not "clear", yet.>> Rack it again, put it back in the fridge.>> I imagine most EZ cap users drink it well before it's totally clear. And it> won't hurt you one bit to do so. Heck, might even be good for you according> to some studies. Since EZ caps advertises drinkable "wine" in 2 weeks or> something similar they are drinking something with a lot of "Gunk" in.>> If you want the best tasting drink you can get, keep racking every week as> long as you are getting that "gunk" in the bottom in appreciable amounts.>> There are ways to stop fermentation completely, but If you are using EZ caps> you are looking for a cheap drink, period. Even the worst EZ caps drink I've> made was much better than the cheap stuff available for purchase. Just> realize you aren't going to win any awards with it and you'll be happy.>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of ozzy60107> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:00 AM> To: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [E-Z-Caps] Re: Gunk>> How do i stop it again?> How do you finish off yours?> Anyone please reply with your system of doing this.>>>>>> --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "Willum" wrote:> >> > It will make gunk as long as there is live yeast and sugar> available.> > Cooling doesnt stop the fermentation, just slows it down a whole> lot.> >> > --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "ozzy60107" wrote:> > >> > > I put the finished brew in the frige 2 days then raked to another> > > bottle,but i still get gunk settling on the bottom.> > > Should i be doing something else?> > >> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________\____Sponsored LinkRates near 39yr lows. $420,ORGINAL POSTER: kevin

use potassium sorbate to stop the ferintation...it kills the yeast.ORGINAL POSTER: rrkeller123

Here's another resource about 'stopping' and 'finishing' your homemade wine:http://www.home.earthlink.net/~mikemojc/Stopping.html--- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "Justforfun69" wrote:>> Putting it in the fridge DOES stop fermentation. I'll qualify thatby saying> if you have a drink that isn't fully fermented it WILL resumefermentation> after returning to room temperature.>> The reason you are still getting "gunk" is it's not "clear", yet.>> Rack it again, put it back in the fridge.>> I imagine most EZ cap users drink it well before it's totallyclear. And it> won't hurt you one bit to do so. Heck, might even be good for youaccording> to some studies. Since EZ caps advertises drinkable "wine" in 2weeks or> something similar they are drinking something with a lot of "Gunk"in.>> If you want the best tasting drink you can get, keep racking everyweek as> long as you are getting that "gunk" in the bottom in appreciableamounts.>> There are ways to stop fermentation completely, but If you areusing EZ caps> you are looking for a cheap drink, period. Even the worst EZ capsdrink I've> made was much better than the cheap stuff available for purchase.Just> realize you aren't going to win any awards with it and you'll behappy.>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf> Of ozzy60107> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:00 AM> To: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [E-Z-Caps] Re: Gunk>> How do i stop it again?> How do you finish off yours?> Anyone please reply with your system of doing this.>>>>>> --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "Willum" wrote:> >> > It will make gunk as long as there is live yeast and sugar> available.> > Cooling doesnt stop the fermentation, just slows it down a whole> lot.> >> > --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "ozzy60107" wrote:> > >> > > I put the finished brew in the frige 2 days then raked toanother> > > bottle,but i still get gunk settling on the bottom.> > > Should i be doing something else?> > >> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups LinkORGINAL POSTER: willum

It's fine for me i just don't want that happeing to the stuff if igive some away.--- "Justforfun69" wrote:>> Putting it in the fridge DOES stop fermentation. I'll qualify thatby saying> if you have a drink that isn't fully fermented it WILL resumefermentation> after returning to room temperature.>> The reason you are still getting "gunk" is it's not "clear", yet.>> Rack it again, put it back in the fridge.>> I imagine most EZ cap users drink it well before it's totallyclear. And it> won't hurt you one bit to do so. Heck, might even be good for youaccording> to some studies. Since EZ caps advertises drinkable "wine" in 2weeks or> something similar they are drinking something with a lot of "Gunk"in.>> If you want the best tasting drink you can get, keep racking everyweek as> long as you are getting that "gunk" in the bottom in appreciableamounts.>> There are ways to stop fermentation completely, but If you areusing EZ caps> you are looking for a cheap drink, period. Even the worst EZ capsdrink I've> made was much better than the cheap stuff available for purchase.Just> realize you aren't going to win any awards with it and you'll behappy.>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com [mailto:E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf> Of ozzy60107> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:00 AM> To: E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [E-Z-Caps] Re: Gunk>> How do i stop it again?> How do you finish off yours?> Anyone please reply with your system of doing this.>>>>>> --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "Willum" wrote:> >> > It will make gunk as long as there is live yeast and sugar> available.> > Cooling doesnt stop the fermentation, just slows it down a whole> lot.> >> > --- In E-Z-Caps@yahoogroups.com, "ozzy60107" wrote:> > >> > > I put the finished brew in the frige 2 days then raked toanother> > > bottle,but i still get gunk settling on the bottom.> > > Should i be doing something else?> > >> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links>ORGINAL POSTER: ozzy60107